Recent conversations on this topic:
Q> Solid Seal Bi-Color Male. I think? Notice the white underfur showing through at elbows.
He is considered a purebred Ragdoll by TICA. But, maybe the color isn't recognized or hasn't been voted in? Can you breed your Purebred Ragdoll with other Purebred breeds and still be considered a purebred Ragdoll (I read that on a message board)?
A> TICA is a registry...self-reported by a breeder, and if the breeder is unknowledgeable or untruthful (as is clear in this case), they can say whatever they want, and nobody will fact-check.http://ragdollcatsunited.com/smf/index.php?topic=122.0
All Ragdolls are blue eyed, pointed cats, of which your cutie is neither. I'm not sure what a white undercoat has to do with anything, since Ragdolls are not supposed to have an undercoat.
That doesnít make him less cute though, so enjoy him (just donít breed him expecting purebred Ragdolls). http://ragdollcatsunited.com/smf/index.php?topic=50.0
Q> Alright, so.. let's say you have a litter of 8 kittens. Four of them are pointed and four are non-pointed. It sounds strange to say, these four are Ragdolls and these four are something else..
A> Because none of them are Ragdolls. Because you need 2 Ragdoll parents to make a Ragdoll, and if one of the kittens is solid, then clearly one of the parents (or somewhere in the lineage) was not a Ragdoll. Check out my links, this is all explained there. And the reasons one might (or not) want to avoid breeders breeding mixed cats and selling them as Ragdolls (a true Ragdoll breeder would be knowledgeable about this and a whole lot more) are there too.
A Ragdoll is not just a Ragdoll- looking cat, itís a cat that was purposely bred as a Ragdoll. The Ragdoll Cat Fanciers decide these things, not TICA.
Plenty of cats are Ragdoll looking. Mixed, moggies, even other purebred cats. You canít tell by looking, you can tell by genes. And the only way to ensure that is a reputable breeder. A breeder that breeds solids and calls them Ragdolls is either not knowledgeable or is outright lying. Sorry....
Edit: For example, Birman cats are really difficult to distinguish from Ragdolls if you go just by the looks: https://www.cuteness.com/article/differences-between-ragdoll-birman-cats
(link for photo comparison purpose, I didnít read the article)
Another answer by someone else> This boy isnít a ragdoll at all, nor is he purebred. Responsible breeding programs for Ragdolls are extremely important because Ragdolls are a relatively new breed and should never be bred by breeders who do not register their kittens, breeding programs, and submit pedigree information with TICA or other cat fancier associations. Ragdolls must be bred based on pedigrees by responsible breeders with active breeding programs which plan their lines several generations out. This is vital because Ragdolls must be bred with other Ragdolls which are at least four genetic degrees of separation from themselves.
Itís super irresponsible for hobby breeders to cross Ragdolls with other breeds. If you donít have the $ to compensate a good breeder for a good contract, healthy ragdoll kitten, who comes with HCM testing, a pedigree, and instructions for taking care of the kittens properly, then you should consider adopting a kitty instead. Ragdolls also need significantly more care for the first four years of their life than other breeds of cats because Ragdolls are kittens technically until they are four years old because they are a large, slow growing breed. If the kitten is a pet quality cat, they should cost you between~ $700 $1k USD for a PET QUALITY to accurately compensate a breeder for the cost of raising and feeding healthy, happy ragdoll kittens for the full 12 weeks at their cattery before they can go to a new home. Any pet quality ragdoll from a responsible breeder will include that the kitten must be neutered/spayed before reaching sexual maturity, AND that they must never be declawed or let outdoors because they donít have the same kill instincts as other cats. Show quality or breeding quality Ragdolls will cost double to triple the price or more.
If your ragdoll doesnít come with all these things, they are not a responsibly bred Ragdoll at all. My ragdoll breeder friends have also said they see other breeders often trying to lie about a ragdollís health or coloring. (E.g. with selling Minks as ďheritage RagdollsĒ or selling light blues or light seals as lilac and chocolate point respectively when in reality, their genes donít carry lilac or chocolate lines.
In my opinion, itís much better to rescue a cat that needs love than support irresponsible and inhumane breeding practices.
And the frustrating response> Idk, he is registered as a purebred Ragdoll. And, I am more apt to believe his TICA paper-trail and breeders that I know and trust... over the breeders online coming at me all snobbish.